Episode Transcript

Investing With a Self-Directed IRA
Episode 7: January 30, 2007

Hello and welcome to Money Girl’s Quick and Dirty Tips for a Richer Life.

Today’s topic is how to take control of your IRA.

Today, I’m going to be talking about something really cool: a self-directed IRA.

Did you know that the IRS actually allows you to invest in just about any type of asset with your IRA funds? In fact, there are only three types of investments the IRS excludes from an IRA:

  • Collectibles (for example, art, antiques, jewelry, or coins other than U.S. gold coins)
  • Life insurance
  • S corporations


When I first found out it was possible to invest in things other than stocks, bonds, and mutual funds with an IRA, I wondered why it was I hadn’t ever heard about it earlier. I’d been contributing to an IRA for many years, yet I never knew I could make all types of investments with my IRA money except for those three excluded things. I mean, gosh, if I could invest in real estate or a privately held business, for example, with IRA funds (or better yet, Roth IRA funds) that would be pretty neat.

The reason you rarely hear that it’s possible is that most IRA custodians are traditional banks or brokerages and they offer stocks and mutual funds. After I heard it was possible to invest in other types of assets, just for kicks, I called up Fidelity (who happened to be my IRA custodian) and said, “I’d like to invest in real estate with my IRA money. What do I need to do?”

Well, that retirement advisor sure was wondering what planet I was from. But he was very helpful nonetheless, and pointed me to some real estate-related mutual funds. He was unaware that it was possible to purchase real estate with an IRA, which is not at all surprising, because, it isn’t possible with traditional banks and brokerages.

To invest in other types of assets, you need to open what’s called a “self-directed IRA” with a custodian that allows you to invest in the full range of asset types allowed by the IRS. With a self-directed IRA, you can invest in real estate and privately held businesses, make secured loans (such as a mortgage), make unsecured loans, and also invest in traditional assets such as stocks and mutual funds. With real estate bought by a self-directed IRA, any income and capital gains grow tax-deferred in the case of traditional IRA or tax-free in the case of a Roth. Pretty cool!

In the last episode, I talked about the concept of leverage. And, it is possible to buy property with leverage in your IRA: there are some lenders who will lend on real estate purchased by an IRA. However, leveraging within an IRA can result in a special kind of tax on the income and capital gains from the leveraged portion of the investment. In most cases, this tax is higher than what you would pay if you bought and financed a property personally rather than through your IRA. But it’s good to know that it is possible to use leverage when buying real estate with an IRA.

For those of you who might be interested in diversifying your IRA investments beyond stocks, bonds, and mutual funds, you might want to look into a self-directed IRA to see if it’s right for you. Links to self-directed IRA custodians and an IRA lender are provided following the transcript for this episode at quickanddirtytips.com.

As always, everyone’s situation is different so it’s a good idea to consult your tax or financial advisor.

Today, we have another book giveaway. And the winner is Mike from the “Let’s Speak Italian podcast.” Congratulations, Mike! You’ve won a copy of IRA Wealth by Patrick Rice, a book on investing using a self-directed IRA. Please check your email for instructions.

Cha-ching! That's all for now, courtesy of Money Girl, your guide to a richer life.

If you have a question or comment, email it to money@quickanddirtytips.com. Also, check out the other Quick and Dirty Tips podcasts: Grammar Girl, Mr. Manners, and The Traveling Avatar. Thanks for listening!

Resources

Self-directed solo IRA custodians


Self-directed IRA mortgage lender


Comments (13) for Investing With a Self-Directed IRA |  Subscribe to Comment

Joshua Geary Says:
10/20/2007 11:37:08 PM
If you are looking to set up a self directed IRA account to invest in alternative assets such as real estate, foreign real estate or trust deeds, then I recommend that you check out http://www.trusteeamericaservices.com. Their fees are reasonable and more affordable than the companies listed and they have great customer service.
Jennifer Walker Says:
9/26/2007 2:59:02 AM
good afternoon to all, I am 24 years old and I'm married. I have been thinking about opening a Roth Ira. I just don't know which bank to invest in. I am pretty clueless when it comes to this topic. I guess my question is, does it matter what bank you open the Roth Ira with? Is it tax deductible? could some one please explain to me how does the Roth Ira work in detail I surely would appreciate that.
Daniel cordoba Says:
4/1/2007 12:37:26 AM
To learn more about frequently asked questions please visit http://www.myrealestateira.com
Daniel Cordoba Says:
4/1/2007 12:34:52 AM
I am a self-directed IRA advisor and this is a common question. In many articles out there it is a common reason people use not to purchase real estate in an IRA. However, the world is not flat and yes when you become 59 1/2 you can pay the tax on the appraised value of the property and then own it yourself. It would be no different than cashung in a mutual fund for cash.
Daniel Cordoba Says:
4/1/2007 12:30:35 AM
No you cannot purchase your home with a self-directed IRA. The purchase must be an investment.
Kenneth Says:
3/28/2007 2:26:13 PM
I was just reading through and I see a lot of questions about Self Directed IRA’s. I am pretty sure another thing you cannot invest in are General Partnerships. Anyways, I have an account with a company in Ohio called the Equity Trust Company, and they have been extremely helpful. They have been able to answer every question I have had. I believe their website is www.trustetc.com if anyone is interested in checking them out. I have nothing but good things to say about them. I know they have an all inclusive fee schedule which I think a lot of people might find important. They don’t nickel and dime you for every transaction you make.
Jorge Says:
3/7/2007 9:20:42 PM
Is it permissable to use a self-directed IRA to purchase some land property, hold it in the IRA for some years, and then purchase the property from the IRA when I retire and can acesss my IRA funds?
Clint Moran Says:
2/6/2007 2:28:11 PM
I appreciate your podcast a great deal. I work like a dog and am plowing away money like a maniac, in an effort to make-up for years of irresponsibility. But I'm not necessarily making the best investment choices. I think you're going to help me with that problem. Thank you very much!
Ms. Jaime Raskulinecz Says:
2/2/2007 5:12:00 PM
George: Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but you can't personally use a property that you buy with your retirement plan. It has to be for investment purposes only and all income and expenses have to go through your plan.

I have an office with The Entrust Group, my office is in NJ and is Entrust Northeast. We'd be happy to answer more questions if you have them or you can find The Entrust Group site on the web and look around.
George Camann Says:
2/2/2007 2:51:59 PM
moneygirl,
I just found your pod cast this week and the last 2 episodes have been great. I think todays episode might just change my life if things work out. I never knew I could actually do what I've always wanted to do with my IRA. Vacation property here I come!
Thanks,
George
Ms. Jaime Raskulinecz, CPM Says:
2/2/2007 2:14:54 PM
I am a principal for a self-directed IRA administrator. Some great information in this piece.
To answer David, you may not buy your primary residence with funds from your IRA as the rules state that you may not receive any current benefit from your plan. However, you may borrow funds from someone else's IRA (not certain family members) to finance the purchase of your primary residence.
David W. Says:
2/2/2007 4:03:58 AM
Can you use your IRA self-directed IRA to purchase your primary residence or is this for investment property only?
Matt S. Says:
2/1/2007 3:55:52 PM
Really enjoyed this topic. I work for a national real estate principal, www.SpectrusGroup.com, and we are heavily promoting the use of self-directed IRAs to buy real estate. You were right on about the traditional banks and brokerages. They are not set up to handle it, and it does not benefit them so they are not heavily promoting this type of investment. But it is picking up steam as Americans always like to be in control so this investment vehicle really speaks to them. And it doesn't hurt that real estate has performed well over the past few years. Keep up the great work. I enjoy your podcast.

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